Drummond, Herbert Charles (1864-1938)

Herbert Charles Drummond was a real estate broker. He lived at 1960 Robson Street from 1913 to 1938.

He was born in Nainital, India, on May 4, 1864. His father was Robert Andrew John Drummond (1820-1887); his mother was Anna Maria Reade (born about 1839 in St. Pancras, Middlesex; she died in 1871). Herbert’s father worked for the Bengal Civil Service in India. Herbert’s grandfather was the sixth Viscount Strathallan.

In 1871, Herbert’s mother, Anna, and most of the Drummond children were living in Brighton, England.

In 1881, Herbert’s father, Robert, was living in St. Clement Danes in Middlesex, England.

Herbert was educated at Clifton College in Clifton, England. He may have arrived in Canada as early as 1878. He lived for several years at Telegraph Creek in British Columbia, and he took up the real estate business in British Columbia about 1909. He was a member of the congregation at Christ Church in Vancouver, and he belonged to the Jericho Country Club in Vancouver as well as the Ranelagh Club in London, England.

On August 7, 1911, in Vancouver, Herbert married Helen Frances Mitcheson Lewis, who was the widow of Albert Edward Lewis (1860-1908). Helen came from a wealthy family. She was born in Montreal on September 16, 1862 (or 1863). Her father was Stanley Clark Bagg (1821-1873); her mother was Catherine Mitcheson (1822-1914). (Further details of Helen’s earlier life appear on the page for Albert Edward Lewis.)

After the wedding, Herbert and Helen went to Montreal, and then returned to Vancouver in mid-September before going to India for the Durbar festivities in Delhi. This mass assembly of notable persons marked the proclamation of George V and Queen Mary as Emperor and Empress of India. It was especially notable because both George V and Queen Mary attended the ceremonies in person.

While Herbert and Helen were away, Francis Egerton Grosvenor and Mrs. Grosvenor moved into the house at 1960 Robson.

In 1913, there were still issues with Albert Edward Lewis’s estate, which led to a series of court applications to deal with some timber lands at Nimkish on Vancouver Island. The lands were worth as much as $100,000, which was a large sum of money at that time.

By 1914, Herbert and Helen were off on another trip, this time to England, where they were planning to spend the winter. When the First World War made world travel much more challenging, Herbert and Helen spent more time near Vancouver and in California.

In 1916 and 1917, Helen was the regent of the Coronation Chapter of the Imperial Order of the Daughters of the Empire, the first chapter to be established in Vancouver.

After the war, Herbert and Helen resumed their travels to Europe. In 1919, Mr. and Mrs. John Arthur Clark leased 1960 Robson Street for the winter months.

In 1922, Helen was still participating in the Coronation Chapter of the Imperial Order of the Daughters of the Empire.

In November 1926, before Herbert and Helen went to Europe, Helen held two small teas that include dozens of guest. In 1931, Helen had been away from Vancouver for two years when she was the guest of honour at a luncheon given by Comtesse Alexandre Lambert. (Before her marriage, the comtesse was Flora Macdonald Russell, the daughter of Joseph Ambrose Russell of 1973 Robson Street.)

Helen died in Vancouver on April 19, 1935. She was buried in Mountain View Cemetery in Vancouver.

Herbert continued to live in Vancouver, making short trips to Duncan, on Vancouver Island to visit his brother, Arthur (1866-1942).

Herbert died in Vancouver on July 14, 1938. He was buried in Mountain View Cemetery in Vancouver.

Herbert and Helen had no children.

 

Sources

Robert Andrew John Drummond (father of Herbert Charles Drummond)

“Scotland, Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950,” index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/X1F6-CQ2 : accessed 06 Jan 2014), Robert Andrew John Drummond, 04 Aug 1820; citing [REFERENCE-ERROR], reference ; FHL microfilm 993481.

“India, Marriages, 1792-1948 ,” index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FGN4-64C : accessed 06 Jan 2014), Robert Andrew John Drummond and Anna Maria Reade, 08 Nov 1854.

“England and Wales Census, 1881,” index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/X3GL-XWV : accessed 06 Jan 2014), Robert Andrew John Drummond in entry for Robert Rankin Hutchinson, 1881.

Anna Marie Reade

“England and Wales Census, 1871,” index and images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/VFDW-X24 : accessed 06 Jan 2014), Anna M Drummond, 1871.

Anna Maria Drummond, Free BMD deaths, June quarter 1871, Hendon district, Middlesex, volume 3a, page 81, http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/districts.pl?r=48382755&d=bmd_1387820160

Herbert Charles Drummond

“India, Births and Baptisms, 1786-1947,” index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FGQS-8VF : accessed 06 Jan 2014), Herbert Charles Drummond, 04 May 1864.

Nainital, India, Wikipedia,http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nainital, Bengal, India.

Literary references to Nainital, Wikipedia, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Literary_references_to_Nainital: “The town of Nainital (in British times Naini Tal or Nynee Tal), India was founded in 1841 by P. Barron, a sugar trader from Shahjahanpur.”

“England and Wales Census, 1871,” index and images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/VFDW-X2Z : accessed 06 Jan 2014), Herbert C Drummond in entry for Anna M Drummond, 1871.

Ranelagh Club, Wikipedia, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ranelagh_Club.

Social and Personal, Vancouver Province, July 11, 1911, page 5: “A marriage has been arranged and will shortly take place very quietly in this city between Mrs. Edward Lewis, daughter of the late Stanley Clarke Bagg of Montreal, and Mr. Herbert Charles Drummond, son of the late Hon. Robert Andrew John Drummond of the Bengal civil service, and grandson of the sixth Viscount Strathallan.”

The Montreal Gazette – Jul 15, 1911, page 2, http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=MFIuAAAAIBAJ&sjid=An8FAAAAIBAJ&pg=6769%2C1427275: “Announcement is made of the approaching marriage, to be quietly solemnized in Vancouver, of Mrs. Edward Lewis, daughter of the late Stanley Clarke Bagg and Mrs. Bagg, of Montreal, to Mr. Herbert Charles Drummond, son of the late Hon. Robert Andrew John Drummond, of the Bengal Civil Service, and grandson of the sixth Viscount Strathallan.”

“British Columbia Marriage Registrations, 1859-1932,” index and images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/JDDQ-4FH : accessed 06 Jan 2014), Herbert Charles Drummond and Helen Frances Mitcheson Lewis, 1911.

British Columbia Marriage Registrations, Registration Number: 1911-09-063123, Herbert Charles Drummond and Helen Frances Mitcheson Lewis, http://search-collections.royalbcmuseum.bc.ca/Genealogy/DisplayGenealogyImage?k=45e55a4c-ca9c-47ac-a6fd-6b290ce2a1b8

Society, Vancouver Province, August 8, 1911, page 5: “The marriage took place quietly yesterday afternoon at Christ Church of Helen Frances Mitcheson, widow of the late Edward Lewis, and daughter of the late Stanley Clark Bagg of Montreal, and Herbert Charles Drummond, son of the late Hon. Robert A. J. Drummond, Bengal civil service, and grandson of the sixth Viscount Strathallan. The Rev. C.C. Owen officiated. Mr. and Mrs. Drummond left for Eastern Canada and will return to Vancouver before proceeding to the Durbar. The bride is well known and very popular in Vancouver.”

Society, Vancouver Province, September 10, 1911, page 5: “The Hon. Francis Grosvenor and Mrs Grosvenor, who have been occupying Mr H.D. Hulme’s residence, Haro street, all summer, have taken Mrs. H.C. Drummond’s house, 1960 Robson street.”

Society, Vancouver Province, September 14, 1911, page 5: “Mr. and Mrs. H.C. Drummond have returned from the east and are staying at the Hotel Vancouver. They will sail on October 4 for India to witness the Durbar festivities.

Delhi Durbar, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delhi_Durbar. “On March 22, 1911, a royal proclamation announced that the Durbar would be held in December to commemorate the coronation in Britain a few months earlier of King George V and Queen Mary and allow their proclamation as Emperor and Empress of India. Without public forewarning, the announcement of the move of India’s capital from Calcutta to Delhi was also made at the Durbar. Practically every ruling prince and nobleman in India, plus thousands of landed gentry and other persons of note, attended to pay obeisance to their sovereigns.”

Society, Vancouver Province, December 21, 1912, page 8: “Mr. and Mrs. H.C. Drummond left on Wednesday for Montreal, whence they will sail for England, where they will spend the winter.”

“New York, Passenger Arrival Lists (Ellis Island), 1892-1924,” index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/JN18-SN1 : accessed 06 Jan 2014), Herbert Chas. Drummond, 30 Apr 1913; citing Olympic, United States National Archives, Washington, D.C.

“New York, Passenger Arrival Lists (Ellis Island), 1892-1924,” index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/JJQH-Y4M : accessed 06 Jan 2014), Herbert Charles Drummond, 17 Jun 1914; citing Olympic, United States National Archives, Washington, D.C.

“New York, Passenger Arrival Lists (Ellis Island), 1892-1924,” index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/JNK5-ZZ8 : accessed 06 Jan 2014), Herbert C. Drummond, 04 May 1922; citing Homeric, United States National Archives, Washington, D.C.

“Hawaii, Honolulu Index to Passengers, Not Including Filipinos, 1900-1952,” index and images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/KDRJ-6GH : accessed 06 Jan 2014), Herbert C Drummond, 1923.

Society, Vancouver Sun, June 14, 1937, page 6: “Mr. Herbert Drummond has returned from Duncan V.I., where he has been visiting his brother.”

“British Columbia Death Registrations, 1872-1986,” index and images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FLL2-PHR : accessed 06 Jan 2014), Herbert Charles Drummond, 1938.

British Columbia Death Registrations, Registration Number: 1938-09-545675, Herbert Charles Drummond.

“Herbert Drummond Died this Morning,” Vancouver Province, July 14, 1938, page 18.

“H.C. Drummond, Pioneer, Dies,” Vancouver Sun, July 14, 1938, page 5 (includes photograph of H.C. Drummond).

Funeral Saturday (Herbert Charles Drummond), Vancouver Province, July 15, 1938, page 14 (includes photograph of Herbert Charles Drummond).

Herbert Charles Drummond, death notice, Vancouver Province, July 15, 1938, page 17; Vancouver Sun, July 15, 1938, page 17.

Herbert Charles Drummond, Find A Grave, Mountain View Cemetery, Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada, Plot: HORNE2/*/09/042/0001, http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=26286156.

Helen Frances Mitcheson Bagg (wife of Herbert Charles Drummond)

“Can Not Deal with Husband’s Estate: Valuable Property Tied Up Because Edward Lewis’ Will Was Not Witnessed,” Vancouver Province, January 17, 1913, page 13.

“New York, Passenger Arrival Lists (Ellis Island), 1892-1924,” index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/JN18-SJM : accessed 06 Jan 2014), Helen Francis M. Drummond, 30 Apr 1913; citing Olympic, United States National Archives, Washington, D.C.

“New York, Passenger Arrival Lists (Ellis Island), 1892-1924,” index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/JJQH-YW1 : accessed 06 Jan 2014), Helen Frances Drummond, 17 Jun 1914; citing Olympic, United States National Archives, Washington, D.C.

Society, Vancouver Province, November 15, 1915, page 8: “Mr. and Mrs. Herbert Drummond and Miss Marjorie Lindsay returned last night from Harrison Hot Springs, where they spent the week” Vancouver Province, November 14, 1916, page 8 (includes photograph of Mrs. Herbert Drummond.)

Society, Vancouver Province, November 14, 1916, page 8: “Mrs. Herbert Drummond was again made regent of Coronation Chapter of the Daughters of the Empire at the annual meeting of that society which was held at her residence yesterday.”

Society, Vancouver Province, February 2, 1917, page 8: “Mr. and Mrs. Herbert Drummond will leave on Saturday for Del Monte, where they will stay for six weeks.”

Society, Vancouver Province, April 9, 1917, page 8: “Mr. and Mrs. Herbert Drummond, accompanied by Mrs. Julius Griffith, have returned from a sojourn of several weeks in the South.”

Society, Vancouver Province, October 20, 1919, page 8: “Mr. and Mrs. J.A. Clark have leased the residence of Mrs. H.C. Drummond, 1960 Robson street, for the winter months.”

“New York, Passenger Arrival Lists (Ellis Island), 1892-1924,” index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/J68F-3YQ : accessed 06 Jan 2014), Helen Frances Drummond, 17 May 1920; citing Baltic, United States National Archives, Washington, D.C.

“New York, Passenger Arrival Lists (Ellis Island), 1892-1924,” index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/JNK5-ZZD : accessed 06 Jan 2014), Helen F.M. Drummond, 04 May 1922; citing Homeric, United States National Archives, Washington, D.C.

“Conveners for Chapter Garden Party to be Held at Mrs. F.R. McD. Russell’s,” Vancouver Province, June 21, 1922, page 8 (includes photograph of Mrs. Herbert Drummond).

“Mrs. Drummond Entertains at Two Functions,” Vancouver Sun, November 17, 1926, page 8 (includes long list of guests).

“In and Out of Town,” Vancouver Sun, May 1, 1931, page 14: “Mrs. Herbert Drummond, who returned last week to the city after an absence of two years abroad, was guest of honor when Comtesse Alexandre Lambert entertained at luncheon today.”

“British Columbia Death Registrations, 1872-1986,” index and images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FLG5-B38 : accessed 06 Jan 2014), Helen Frances Mitcheson Drummond, 1935.

British Columbia Death Registrations, Registration Number: 1935-09-500062, Helen Frances Mitcheson Drummond.

“Mrs. Drummond is Called by Death: Well-known City Resident to be Laid at Rest on Tuesday,” Vancouver Province, April 20, 1935, page 2 (includes photograph of Mrs. Helen Drummond.)

Helen Drummond, death notice, Vancouver Province, April 20, 1935, page 17.

Helen Frances Drummond, Find A Grave, Mountain View Cemetery, Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada, Plot: HORNE2/*/09/042/0002, http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=26286157.

Arthur David Drummond (brother of Herbert Charles Drummond)

“England and Wales Census, 1871,” index and images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/VFDW-X28 : accessed 06 Jan 2014), Arthur D Drummond in entry for Anna M Drummond, 1871.

“Canada Census, 1901,” index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/KHV2-Y3Y : accessed 06 Jan 2014), Arthur D Drummond in entry for Patrick J Mcmahon, 1901.

“British Columbia Marriage Registrations, 1859-1932,” index and images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/JDZF-BZX : accessed 06 Jan 2014), Anna Maria Reade in entry for Arthur David Drummond and Constance Margaret Parker, 1910.

“British Columbia Death Registrations, 1872-1986,” index and images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FLG5-CMQ : accessed 06 Jan 2014), Arthur David Drummond, 1942.

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