Carman, Harold Elgin (1888-1950)

Harold Elgin Carman worked in the mill supply business. He lived at 1999 Beach Avenue in 1908.

He was born in Prescott, Ontario, on September 28, 1888. His father was Daniel Elgin Carman; his mother was Ruby Akin.

He was drafted into the Canadian Expeditionary Force in 1917.

After the war, he worked in Vancouver in the mill supply business.

On August 31, 1921, in Vancouver, he married Jennie Elizabeth McGregor. She was born on November 3, 1888, in Winnipeg, Manitoba. Her father was Duncan Campbell McGregor (1853-1929), who lived at 1914 Robson Street from 1902 to 1906); Jennie’s mother was Mary Ann Boulton (1847-1944).

In 1930, Harold was working with Philip Arthur Octavius Sankey (1881-1948) and Kenneth Hamilton White (1887-1976). [Philip Sankey married Janet Marianne Tunstall, who was a daughter of Simon John Tunstall and Marianne Lawson Innes, who lived at 2037 Pendrell Street in 1913.]

Sankey and White - Wrigley’s British Columbia Directory - 1930 - page 1299

Sankey and White – Wrigley’s British Columbia Directory – 1930 – page 1299

Harold died in West Vancouver, British Columbia, on July 12, 1950.

Jennie died in West Vancouver on January 18, 1976. She was buried in Mountain View Cemetery in Vancouver.

Harold and Jennie had the following children.

 

Daniel Elgin Carman

Daniel Elgin Carman was born in Vancouver on April 1, 1924. He died in Vancouver on November 3, 1929. He was buried in Mountain View Cemetery in Vancouver.

 

Helen Ann Carman

Helen Ann Carman was born in Vancouver in the late 1920s.

On November 19, 1949, at Ryerson United Church in Vancouver, she married John Leonard Whitehead Boultbee. He was born on June 15, 1927. His parents were Ernest Leonard Boultbee (1892-1977) and Helen Jeanette Whitehead (1892-1958). John died in North Vancouver on November 13, 2006.

 

Sources

“United States Border Crossings from Canada to United States, 1895-1956,” index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XLTQ-R29 : accessed 27 January 2015), Jennie Mcgregor, Aug 1909; from “Border Crossings: From Canada to U.S., 1895-1954,” Ancestry; citing Ship , arrival port Blaine, Washington, , line 29, NARA microfilm publication M1464, roll 103, NARA record group 85, National Archives and Records Administration, Washington D.C.

“United States Border Crossings from Canada to United States, 1895-1956,” index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/X225-C6X : accessed 27 January 2015), Jennie Mcgregor, 24 Jun 1916; from “Border Crossings: From Canada to U.S., 1895-1954,” Ancestry; citing Ship , arrival port Vancouver, British Columbia, , line 15, NARA microfilm publication M1464, roll 311, NARA record group 85, National Archives and Records Administration, Washington D.C.

“California, San Francisco Passenger Lists, 1893-1953,” index and images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/KX42-WRQ : accessed 27 January 2015), Jennie Elizabeth Mcgregor, 1921; citing San Francisco, California, United States, NARA microfilm publication M1410 (Washington, D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.); FHL microfilm 2,378,923.

Canadian Expeditionary Force, Name: Carman, Harold Elgin; Rank: BDR; Regimental Number: 2557425; Date of Birth: 28/09/1888; Reference: RG 150, Accession 1992-93/166, Box 1496 – 25; Item Number:88074;http://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/discover/military-heritage/first-world-war/first-world-war-1914-1918-cef/Pages/item.aspx?IdNumber=88074

“British Columbia Marriage Registrations, 1859-1932,” index and images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/JDZT-3SD : accessed 27 January 2015), Harold Elgin Carman and Jennie Elizabeth Mc Gregor, 31 Aug 1921; citing Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada, British Columbia Archives film number B12906, Vital Statistics Agency, Victoria; FHL microfilm 2,032,869.

“Quiet Wedding at Kitsilano Church Wednesday Evening,” Vancouver Sun, September 1, 1921, page 4: “A very quiet wedding took place at the Kitsilano Methodist Church on Wednesday evening, when Miss J.E. McGregor became the bride of Mr. H.E. Carman. The bride entered the church, which had been prettily decorated by her girl friends, on the arm of her brother, Mrs. Fred McGregor, and was given in marriage by her mother, Mrs. M.A. McGregor. The Rev. Frank Hardy performed the ceremony. Only immediate relatives and friends of the bride were present. Mr. and Mrs. Carman have left for a motor tour of Vancouver Island and will later make their home in Vancouver.”

“British Columbia Death Registrations, 1872-1986,” index and images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FLP9-5MR : accessed 27 January 2015), Harold Elgin Carman, 12 Jul 1950; citing West Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada; British Columbia Archives film number B13205, Division of Vital Statistics, Victoria; FHL microfilm 2,032,633.

Harold Elgin Carman, death notice, Vancouver Province, July 13, 1950, page 15; Vancouver Sun, July 13, 1950, page 23; “Carman – Passed away July 12, 1950, at his home, 2180 Ottawa St., West Vancouver, Harold Elgin Carman, in his 64th year. Mr. Carman is survived by his wife, Jennie Elizabeth; 1 daughter, Mrs. John Boultbee, West Vancouver; 1 brother, Albert, Vancouver, and 1 sister, Mrs. Oswald Shenstone, Toronto. Funeral service Friday, July 14, at 1:30 p.m., in the Georgia Chapel of Center and Hanna, 1049 W. Georgia St., Rev. Ian McEown officiating, followed by cremation. No flowers by request.”

“Elgin Carman Funeral Held Today,” Vancouver Province, July 14, 1950, page 6: “West Vancouver – Funeral of Harold Elgin Carman, 2180 Ottawa, who settled here 20 years ago, was held today at Georgia Chapel of Centre & Hanna, Vancouver, Rev. Ian McEowan [sic] officiating. Cremation followed. Mr. Carman, 63, was born in Ontario and came to B.C. 35 years ago. He was on the sales staff of Imperial Oil Co. and for several years in charge of waterfront and marine sales. Recently he was West Vancouver agent. Surviving besides his wife are a daughter, Mrs. John Boultlbee [sic], West Vancouver; a brother, Albert, Vancouver, and a sister, Mrs. Oswald Shenstone, Toronto.”

“British Columbia Death Registrations, 1872-1986,” index and images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FLP8-2LQ : accessed 29 January 2015), Philip Arthur Octavis Sankey, 12 Feb 1948; citing Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada; British Columbia Archives film number B13196, Division of Vital Statistics, Victoria; FHL microfilm 2,032,480.

“British Columbia Death Registrations, 1872-1986,” index and images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FLBP-BY2 : accessed 29 January 2015), Keneth Hamilton White, 01 Jan 1976; citing North Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada; British Columbia Archives film number B13348, Division of Vital Statistics, Victoria; FHL microfilm 2,050,530.

“British Columbia Death Registrations, 1872-1986,” index and images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FLB5-9JY : accessed 27 January 2015), Jennie Elizabeth Carman, 18 Jan 1976; citing West Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada; British Columbia Archives film number B13348, Division of Vital Statistics, Victoria; FHL microfilm 2,050,530.

Jennie Elizabeth Carman, death notice, Vancouver Sun, January 20, 1976, page 39: “Carman – Jennie Elizabeth, aged 88 years, passed away Sunday, January 18, 1976. Survived by her daughter, Mrs. John Boultbee, West Vancouver, 3 grandchildren and 1 brother, Fred McGregor, Vancouver. A private service was held Tuesday, January 20.”

“British Columbia Death Registrations, 1872-1986,” index and images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FLGD-BHZ : accessed 27 January 2015), Carman, 03 Nov 1929; citing Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada; British Columbia Archives film number B13135, Division of Vital Statistics, Victoria; FHL microfilm 1,952,635.

Daniel Elgin Carman, death notice, Vancouver Province, November 5, 1929, page 15; Vancouver Sun, November 5, 1929, page 14: “Carman – Passed away at the family residence, 2383 2. 49th Ave., Nov. 3, 1929, Daniel Elgin, beloved son of Mr. and Mrs. Harold Elgin Carman, aged 5 years, 7 months and 2 days. Besides his parents he leaves one sister, Helen Ann; grandmother, Mrs. M.A. McGregor to mourn his passing. Funeral services will be held from Center & Hanna’s chapel, Wednesday morning, Nov. 6, 1929, at 10:30 o’clock, Rev. E.D. Braden officiating. Interment Mountain View Cemetery.”

John Leonard Boultbee, http://www.gibbs.fastfreenet.com/WebPages/BoultbeeGroup/gp672.htm.

John Leonard Whitehead Boultbee, Vancouver Voters, 1886, Richmond, British Columbia, British Columbia Genealogical Society, 1994, page 123.

The U.B.C. Alumni Chronicle, December 1949, page 34, Marriages; John Leonard Boultbee to Helen Elgin Carman; http://www.library.ubc.ca/archives/pdfs/chronicle/AL_CHRON_1949_12.pdf.

“Boulbee-Carmen vows Link Pioneer Families,” Vancouver Sun, November 19, 1949, page 35,http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=NX5lAAAAIBAJ&sjid=9IkNAAAAIBAJ&pg=957%2C3733425: “Pioneer B.C. families were united in the marriage this afternoon at Ryerson United Church of Helen Ann Carmen [sic] and John Leonard Boultbee. The couble are well-known in UBC circles and the younger set. The bride, daughter of Mr. and Mrs. Harold Elgin Carmen, is a graduate this year of UBC, where she is affiliated with Gamma Phi Beta. The groom, ony son of Mr. and Mrs. E.L. Boultbee, also attended UBC. [Description of dresses of bride and bridal party.] Miss Shirley Mascou was in gold and Miss Patricia Boultbee, sister of the groom, in copper. Groomsman was John Nicholl and ushers were Donald Warner, Duncan McGregor, Gordon Gilley and William Sweet. Chris Spencer proposed the toast to the bride at the reception held in the social suite, Hotel Vancouver. For the honeymoon by motor to California, the bride travelled with loose fitting beige camel hair coat and chamois hat with beige quills.”

Boultbee, John Leonard (June 15, 1927-November 13, 2006) Globe and Mail, November 18, 2006, Passed away at Lions Gate Hospital in the presence of his loving family. John was educated at Prince of Wales High School, Ridley College, Saint George’s and University of British Columbia, which he left in 1946 to join his father’s firm, Boultbee Sweet Real Estate and Insurance Company. He later established Cumberland Realty Group and Boultbee Realty Ltd. His association with organized real estate in Vancouver was extensive, passing, in his time, through numerous chairs and committees. John is a past president of the Vancouver Real Estate Board and the Real Estate Council of Canada. He was designated by the Appraisal Institutes of both Canada and the United States, and was the youngest Canadian member accepted by the American Institute of Real Estate Councilors. John’s passions were heli-skiing in the Rockies, flying his Cessna, and fishing at Penask, all with his family and many Friends. Family times spent at Qualicum were his ultimate joy, as were his grandchildren, Liam and Jack BOULTBEE, Sian, Katie and Stephen MILL, and Kelsey, Christine and Alison BOULTBEE. John is survived by his wife of 57 years, Helen Ann (née CARMAN,) sons William (Nancy,) Steve (Janice) and daughter Jean MILL (Andy.) He is also survived by his sisters Patricia GILLEY (Gordon,) Nancy KENNEDY (Bill) and many nieces and nephews, all of whom are now preparing for the annual clan Christmas party. John was predeceased by his sister, Bobbie ARBUCKLE in 2005, his mother, Helen Jeanette in 1958 and his father, Leonard in 1977. A Celebration of John’s Life to be held at St. Christopher’s Church, 11th and Inglewood, West Vancouver, on Monday, November 20th, 2006 at 11: 00 a.m. Flowers are gratefully declined. If you wish, a donation to the charity of your choice will be appreciated. Hollyburn Funeral Home 604.922.1221 http://www.hollyburnfunerals.com

 

 

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